sign in a cave in Laos

15 November 2011

Batu Maloi, Negeri Sembilan

Batu Maloi is not a limestone cave. It is actually a large space below granite boulders in a river bed. It is located in Negeri Sembilan in Malaysia.

I wrote this article for The Star in 2004.

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Saturday March 27, 2004
The cave that wasn’tBy Liz Price

When is a cave not a cave? That of course depends on whom you ask. Generally a caver will say a cave is a natural opening in rock big enough for a human to enter. Most caves are in limestone formations. So I was sceptical when I kept coming across tourist leaflets which described a cave in Negri Sembilan as being 1km long.

I knew there were no limestone outcrops south of Kuala Lumpur, and I couldn’t imagine that there could be such a long cave that Malaysian cavers hadn’t heard of.

There was only one thing to do to satisfy my curiosity – go and investigate.

I found a willing victim – sorry, volunteer – to accompany me. My friend Mick is not a caver but I told him he could enjoy the day out in a forest reserve and wait in the sunshine while I explored any cave I might find.


The writer wading through the rush of water between boulders.

Pinpointing the location
So one bright morning we set off for the wilds of Negri Sembilan.

According to the tourist leaflets, the Batu Maloi Cave was in the Kampung Tanggai Forest Reserve in the Johol sub-district, 35km from Kuala Pilah. But they neglected to say in which direction from Kuala Pilah, and didn’t mark the reserve on the map!

Another write-up said the cave was 10 minutes from Johol and 30 minutes from Tampin. Well, at least from this I could roughly pinpoint the position.

I assumed the 10 minutes was by vehicle rather than by Shank’s pony.

We set off from Kuala Lumpur to Seremban, and then turned onto the Rembau road. From Rembau we went left onto the Johol road, and climbed up and over a big hill, which was covered in virgin rainforest.

The 884m Gunung Rembau was on our right. It was sad to see the forest alongside the road being cut, presumably for road widening. As we sped down the hill from the summit, there was a police roadblock at the bottom. I think the police were surprised to see two Mat Sallehs on this country road and just waved us through.

As we reached Johol and headed for Tampin, I made a note of time and distance, so I could estimate roughly where Batu Maloi was. After some time, I thought we had overshot.

So I stopped and asked some workmen, and we went back to Renggoh and turned off by the school. Six kilometres down this road, we finally saw a sign to Gua Batu Maloi.

A cluster of fragrant blossoms belonging to the Saraca, a common riverine tree.

Granite, not limestone
There were cows ambling down this lane and they made no effort to get out of the way, not expecting visitors mid-week. The lane ended near a surau, at a pleasant campsite situated by the river.

A signboard announced that there was indeed a cave, and as I suspected, it was of granite. The board also highlighted the dangers of caving.

We followed the path into the campsite and then got a bit confused as to the way on. We chose a trail which followed the river. We came to a junction after a short while, and I saw a few large boulders by the water.

This looked like the start of the so-called cave and an arrow marked the way in. But neither of us wanted to get our feet wet this early on, so we elected to take the forest path, to see where it went.

It meandered gently uphill, and after a while we noticed a very pleasant smell, which reminded us of honeysuckle. Looking round for the source, I noticed some orange flowers high in the tree canopy.

Then we spied a few flowers closer to us, almost at ground level. This orange blossom belongs to the Saraca, which is a common riverine tree. Although the individual flowers are nothing special to look at, together they provide a bright orange canopy, and their scent is very nice.

Impressive monolith

I was keeping an eye out for leeches, as this was ideal territory for them. Luckily they didn’t seem very abundant. This suggested there weren’t many mammals around in this area, and indeed we saw none, not even monkeys.

We came to a dilapidated wooden shelter later. I wondered who had had to carry all the materials up here to build the shelter, which had fallen apart through neglect.

Nearby was a huge granite boulder. This isolated monolith was about 8m high and 15m long. It was a very impressive sight.

The writer's friend Mick gets dirty scrabbling up and down some muddy slopes.

Mysterious creature?

After a while the trail began to descend. We soon reached the river, and I could see we were above the start of the cave. We decided to continue upstream for a short while, just to explore. We stepped into the clear water and paddled upriver. In this way we got rid of the few leeches that had attached themselves to our feet. Birds were singing on either side of us, and the sun shone brightly though the thick foliage of the tall trees.
We came across another cluster of Saraca trees with the same sweet scent. There were fallen logs covered with bracket fungi. At one point we saw an animal’s footprint in the mud, and were very puzzled as we only saw one print. What mysterious creature had left it?

Frogs plopping

The shady spot under the Saraca trees would have been an ideal place for a picnic, but we had nothing with us. So it was time to turn round, and go and investigate the cave at the huge boulders situated in the riverbed. Arrows painted on the rocks marked the way through, although in fact there was only one route here.

This section of cave was a mere 15m long, and had natural light filtering through. Mick, my friend, however decided he would go around the outside and meet me at the other end.

I soon popped out of the first section of cave and plodded downstream to the next set of boulders. Here the cave was a bit narrower and I was glad to have my torch.

A rope showed the way through, and I found the first section had quite deep water. The rush of water between the boulders and the plop of frogs as they jumped into the water when I disturbed them was quite atmospheric.

In the next part, I decided the water was possibly too deep to keep my daypack dry, so I hauled myself up and over some huge boulders and carefully inched my way across the top and down the other side.

Somehow I managed to slip the last few feet and landed in deep water. Luckily I managed to keep my camera dry.

It was fun negotiating this natural obstacle course. It was as if some giant long ago had been playing marbles with these huge stones, and had lost interest and left them scattered in the river bed.

I went through the final section of cave, and found Mick waiting for me on the other side. He had managed to get rather dirty, scrabbling up and down some muddy slopes. We had both had fun.

As suspected, Batu Maloi wasn’t a cave in the true sense of the word, but it was an interesting place and worthy of a visit.



© Liz Price
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13 November 2011

Tham Erawan, Looei, Thailand

Tham Erawan in Looei province is one of the most famous caves in eastern Thailand. It is located high in a prominent karst tower and the entrance with a seated Buddha is visible from a great distance.

First views of the cave from the main road

The cave is located off Road 210 which runs eastwards from Wang Saphung towards Udon Thani. It is just inside the Looei border and is north of Wang Thong. It is shown on tourist maps and is well signposted.
On the road to the cave
At the car park

Over 600 steps and slopes have to be climbed to reach the cave. There are great views over the surrounding plain. The big Buddha is seated looking out from the entrance. These photos were taken in 2004, the Buddha has since been painted in a gold colour.


The cave is huge. The sloping main chamber is about 170 m long, 20-30 m wide and 40-50 m high. There are a few very large stalagmites.
Luckily there was some electric lighting as I had left my torch in the car. Looking back to the entrance
The cave and the views were impressive and it was worth the effort of the climb.

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11 November 2011

Cave deities that like alcohol

A friend made a comment about drinking beer in a cave temple.

That inspired me to look through my photos to find some 'beer gods'. These photos show that the gods like their booze as much as humans!

I don't know who the deities are. The photos were taken in different cave temples around Ipoh.

These deities likes Guinness. The cave temple is Loong Tow Ngam, Gunung Lang, Perak.



In a temple near Kek Look Tong in Perak, this deity has bottles of brandy
I was told this is a "hell spirit" He will accompany those who pass away on the journey of hell according to traditional Chinese belief.

Another friend told me "Offerings of spirits and Guinness (Or Gau in Hokkien) is testimonial to the breath of Chinese culture and its magnanimous accommodation of diversity. On the altar, the bottles of brandy is one level below Buddha and at the same level with a Daoist deity and buddhist lo han. It seems a perfect reflection of the Chinese culture: a mutation of Buddhism, Daoism and Confucionism."

At Nam Loong Ngam at Gng Layang Layang - another Guinness god

Tung Wah Tong at Gng Layang Layang -

At a cave temple at Gunung Ginting in Perak :
Prosperity God

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8 comments:

  1. where is that temple's locaion?
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  2. that one who offer brandy is "hell spirit" He will accompany those who pass away to the journey of hell according to traditional chinese believes
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  3. Most of the photos show actually are spirit not god.
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  4. Loong Tow Ngam is at Gunung Lang.
    The brandy god is in a small temple near Kek Look Tong at Gunung Rapat.
    Tung Wah is at Gng Layang Layang.
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  5. Thanks for the info, I was hoping someone would know.
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  6. Offerings of spirits and Guiness (Or Gau in Hokkien) is testimonial to the breath of Chinese culture and its magnanimous accommodation of diversity. On the altar, the bottles of brandy is one level below Buddha and at the same level with a Daoist deity and buddhist lo han - not the wayward actress. It seems a perfect reflection of the Chinese culture: a mutation of Buddhism, Daoism and Confucionism. Better not to confuse deity with spirit?
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  7. Thanks for the info. I will look out for other cave deities who drink!!!
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  8. Interesting that a mat salleh is praying as per Chinese home/folk religion. Just don't fool around for precaution sake. Good intention will have good blessing. As for the guiness stout - maybe the temple caretaker is a happy man.
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9 November 2011

Earth god statue in cave temples

Normally in Malaysia, different religions do not mix. They all have their own beliefs, and apart from Islam, have their own statues of their different deities. However in cave temples I have seen a mix of Chinese, Christian, Hindu, Taoist gods etc in one room. This can easily be seen in the Sai Baba cave temple near Ipoh.

One statue that has always intrigued me is the Malay figure seen in Chinese shrines. The shrines are usually outside the cave temple.

6 statues at Huat Tian temple, Bercham,

I wondered how a "Muslim" statue could appear in a Chinese altar. I've seen this Malay figure in shrines in Chinese temples that are not cave related.
When the Chinese immigrants came to Malaysia, they brought with them their beliefs and gods. As the people were working in fields, rubber plantations, tin mines etc, they set up shrines to house their gods. They also included the Malay figure.

He is often shown as having very dark skin and wears clothes that are worn by Malays, notably the songkok (cap).
This first statue has dark skin and has a songkok and walking stick
This figure has a more pink colour face, wears a songkok and holds a keris.
The next one is similiar

The Chinese believe that all places have a resident spirit, whether it is a building or a piece of land. This spirit, known as Ti Chu Kung, acts as a guardian. The Chinese thinking is that in a Malay area the spirit must be a Malay, hence the statue.

The image is generally found in the entrance area of Chinese temples or under the main altar. Offerings and incense are given. In Malay his title would be Dato or Datuk, in Cantonese it is Na T'o Kung or Na-tik. Wikipedia page on Na Tuk Kong.

These statues are in Jingang Jing She cave temple in Perak.

These are at Miaw Yuan cave temple in Perak

At Gunung Kanthan in Perak, the Zhi Nan Gong (Green Dragon Cave) has these datuks -



And also at Gunung Kanthan, Confucius's Window Cave has this datuk with alcohol bottles, of beer, lager and stout. There is also a pile of empty bottles nearby.




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3 comments:

  1. I think you can find more details using " Chinese folk religion" in the internet.
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  2. Thanks. I did that...... so much information. Seems the Chinese Earth God is Tu Di Gong. But I'm quite curious about the Malay figure.
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  3. Liz, you must give some reasonable doubts - some or most of these punters are no experts.
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